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Re: "A New Earth" is my fav. ET work yet

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:07 pm
by rachMiel
Testigo wrote:speculation... it could be, yes, but it sounds very natural to me.

It also sounds right to me ... but I like to keep an eye on the difference between direct and indirect knowledge. Direct comes from internal first-hand experience; indirect from external sources = talks, writings, scriptures, etc.

Re: "A New Earth" is my fav. ET work yet

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:48 pm
by painBody
rachMiel wrote:It also sounds right to me ... but I like to keep an eye on the difference between direct and indirect knowledge. Direct comes from internal first-hand experience; indirect from external sources = talks, writings, scriptures, etc.


Speaking of theory vs first-hand experience, I have to mention this ... ET says, "If you're present, people will want to be around you." That has proved to be, for lack of better words, total bullshit, in my direct experience. Egos like and want other egos around them to play roles in their pre-scripted dramas. Egos don't like presence. My whole life, I've run into big egos that were completely turned off by my presence.

Re: "A New Earth" is my fav. ET work yet

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:28 pm
by dijmart
ET says, "If you're present, people will want to be around you."


He's probably speaking from his own experience, but does he realize he has so many peeps around him, because they want a teaching from him? ...if he had never taught a thing to anyone, would he still feel the same?

That has proved to be, for lack of better words, total bullshit


Lol!...

Re: "A New Earth" is my fav. ET work yet

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:40 pm
by painBody
dijmart wrote:
ET says, "If you're present, people will want to be around you."


He's probably speaking from his own experience, but does he realize he has so many peeps around him, because they want a teaching from him? ...if he had never taught a thing to anyone, would he still feel the same?


You're probably right :)

I think this also goes to another topic ... you can have all the wisdom in the world from studying and learning from books or teachers, but nothing beats the wisdom you get from direct experience. In that sense, I can't help but feel that ET is naive. I hinted at this in my post, "Is Eckhart a good example to follow ?" I was suggesting that ET, while undeniably wise, doesn't have the typical life experience of your average person. It's one thing to theorize that being present will attract others; it's another thing to know so from direct experience.

The theory of it sounds nice and sounds true - if you emit a nice calm energy, people would wanna be around you ... but the reality tells a very different story. I cannot count the number of examples I can give to the contrary, from just my own life.

When you're around strong egos, you need to have an ego yourself, in order to fit in and find your part in the drama. Around other conscious people, yes, your presence would be appreciated. But around unconscious people, not only is your presence totally lost on them, but it actually provokes an adverse reaction from them, as their egos feel threatened by your presence ... they feel like you're not confirming/validating their identity, and they need that ... in my experience.

Re: "A New Earth" is my fav. ET work yet

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:29 am
by dijmart
When you're around strong egos, you need to have an ego yourself, in order to fit in and find your part in the drama


There's a lady I work with who simply can't mind her own business and talks behind people's backs. She complains constantly about others. She considers me a friend, apparently, so to avoid drama with her I just nod and agree until she wears herself out. Eventually she gets tired of hearing herself complain and goes back to work. :lol:

Re: "A New Earth" is my fav. ET work yet

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:45 am
by painBody
dijmart wrote:
When you're around strong egos, you need to have an ego yourself, in order to fit in and find your part in the drama


There's a lady I work with who simply can't mind her own business and talks behind people's backs. She complains constantly about others. She considers me a friend, apparently, so to avoid drama with her I just nod and agree until she wears herself out. Eventually she gets tired of hearing herself complain and goes back to work. :lol:


:lol:

I live with such a person. She is my testing ground or laboratory for everything that Eckhart says.

:lol: