Webwanderer wrote: ↑
Fri May 25, 2018 11:04 pm
Do you believe that some things are wrong? Rape, murder, child abuse, war, etc, etc,.
It may depend - what do you exactly mean by "believe"?
From a human context it's a fairly easy argument to make that many events and conditions in life are wrong.
It's just a way of speaking "I don't like this! I want to get rid of it or escape from it! I want something else instead of this!". Calling something "wrong" is just a way of communicating one's attitude about something (Unless there is some context, that may give this word a different meaning)
BTW: I like questions
But what does this belief in wrongness do to our relationship with life?
I wouldn't call that a "belief"
Rather a fighting attitude against something
Where in your opinion such an attitude come from?
A relationship that at its essence is Source Itself?
I don't truly get this question right now
Does it not put us in a state of judgment and exclusion?
Yes, it does put us in a state of judgement
Exclusion - in a way yes, although can we ever truly exclude something?
And do we ever truly judge anything?
Does it not separate us from a more holistic experience of life?
Yes, in a way
But who is "right":
Those who say that we "should" be open, or
Those who say that we "should" "subdue" our realities, because that is what are here for?
Is this not the opposite of the inclusive nature of waking up?
What exactly do you mean by "waking up"? Is-ness neither excludes nor includes, it just Is
Is dissolving all defense mechanisms really a good thing?
I did not however, take it personally and feel an angry sense of judgment toward those I interacted with. Well... not usually. It is after all, a work in progress.
Good for you
Do I believe that I am a man?
What do you exactly mean by "am"?
Can you really tell who you are? One day I can tell you: "I am this". Another day I can tell you "I am that". And yet another day I can't tell you who or what exactly I am. In a way, I'm a "spirit" (Ego with capital 'E'; Self). There is also pure awareness in which "I am". And in a way, "I'm" a man with a body
I can also say - "I am that contraction"
We all hold countless beliefs. Some serve us, others inhibit.
Why would we held beliefs that don't serve us?
Again, primary to most other beliefs is who/what we 'think' we are.
I don't know and I don't truly understand that statement "I am this or that"
I can create some self-referencing but it feels kinda virtual