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Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:46 pm
by KPO
Eleven years ago I started writing down my thoughts and questions with regard to spirituality. This was before I read any ET or anyone else for that matter. One entry might be of interest. It does not claim to be anything more than that, except perhaps to me.

"When you allow your mind to fall silent It allows the spiritual to act on you. You become infused by the spiritual. This may simply be from your own spiritual self or from outside spiritual forces entering through your spiritual self. It can be recognized in the physical from a sence of peace and well-being, a sort of spiritual warmth. Physical and material concerns melt away and seem of no importance. Your visual and hearing sences remain active, that is , you are aware of what you are doing and what is happening around you but more as an observer than a participant. It is very difficult to achieve yet cannot be achieved by effort."

KPO

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:39 am
by Sighclone
Sounds good to me, thanks for that post, and welcome to the forum, KPO.

Andy

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:27 pm
by nutrition
I do not know if this is the right thread where to post this question, however, I live in Italy and from what I see here the idea that ET puts forward in the PON that the evolutionary impulse of the universe is going to push as as a whole to aweken .....well I just do not see it here at all
People really live a very superficial and pleasure driven life (good food, wine, beautiful country, very selfish goals and lots of shady dealings - mafia, petty crime, racism). OUr prime minister openly cheats on his wife and puts his mistresses in positions of power and people seem to want what he has. They think he is a great guy (at least more than 50% of the population does).
I do not see anybody being driven towards awakening....what I see, not only here in Italy, but in general, is an exponential growth of devices that take the mind away from pain....computers, social networks, pornography, multiple relationships, entertainement, drinking, drugs, cell phones....
these items were not available and not as widespread years ago...so why is it that ET says that now more than ever, as humans, we have the greatest oportunity to awaken....
I just see that we have created lots of devices and ways to keep staying asleep...more and more asleep and unconscious.
blessing

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:45 am
by Sighclone
Yes, nutrition, that is all there. Italy has a big cultural ego-pleasure script, deeper than say, India or even China. The evidence is pretty flimsy even in London, where, we recall, ET was summoned from to go to Vancouver. Perhaps he has some special sense we lack, or his perspective is simply too narrow...I really have no answer for your question. Any changes in my community in the State of Washington, USA, are small.

Andy

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:25 am
by Nameste
As I look at the planet, I do see emense chalenges. There may well be a silent awakening going on, but despite that, there are huge challenges that will require humanity to overcome violence and poverty and use all our resources to find a way to live sustainably on a planet that is dying. Can awakeing accomplish this? I have no idea, but without awakening I don't see how we have a chance.

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:24 pm
by heidi
If Candace O'Denver is correct, as I believe she is, we are entering the Age of Great Benefit due to a shift in human consciousness. So, there is hope for humanity yet! :D That's what Tolle's A New Earth is all about.

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:35 pm
by usernameless
I do find it a bit odd that there is buzz around a global awakening.
The claim being that more are waking up (more on this below) and that there is some kind of collective consciousness emerging.
For a teacher that emphasises this moment only, it seems off track to venture into this kind of speculation about the progress
of others in some future moment.
Buddha, Ramana, many masters avoided any talk like this, on the whole, because they weren't interested in predicitons of
the future, or trends, or whatever, they were only concerned with the now and the transmission of truth to awaken others.
I guess it just seems trendy and off track - you can see from various forums, you tube vids, etc; that the mind still in duality
loves to hold on to things like this, as it is juicy, and get carried away with it and identified with it. The ego is looking for any
"in" it can find, and the idea of the collective earth awakening and joining together at some future time to change the world,
is very appealing to ego.
I'm sure Tolle and Kim and others realise this, but it seems to keep popping up and remaining embedded in the teachings/discourse.
IMHO, it is a distraction that people don't need to add to their already robust and entrenched conditionings.

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:39 pm
by kiki
Welcome to the board, usernameless. I am curious as to what you would advise people do (for a lack of a better way of putting it) to awaken. It's easy to stand back and make observations of how others teach and those who follow that teaching without putting your own take on it out there for public scrutiny. If you are awake please give us some background on it - what were your influences if any, who were your teachers if any, what practices did you use if any. People come here looking for something to help them "get over the hump", so if you have something to share that is helpful please provide it.

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:10 pm
by snowheight
usernameless wrote:I do find it a bit odd that there is buzz around a global awakening.
The claim being that more are waking up (more on this below) and that there is some kind of collective consciousness emerging.
For a teacher that emphasises this moment only, it seems off track to venture into this kind of speculation about the progress
of others in some future moment.
Buddha, Ramana, many masters avoided any talk like this, on the whole, because they weren't interested in predicitons of
the future, or trends, or whatever, they were only concerned with the now and the transmission of truth to awaken others.
I guess it just seems trendy and off track - you can see from various forums, you tube vids, etc; that the mind still in duality
loves to hold on to things like this, as it is juicy, and get carried away with it and identified with it. The ego is looking for any
"in" it can find, and the idea of the collective earth awakening and joining together at some future time to change the world,
is very appealing to ego.
I'm sure Tolle and Kim and others realise this, but it seems to keep popping up and remaining embedded in the teachings/discourse.
IMHO, it is a distraction that people don't need to add to their already robust and entrenched conditionings.


I understand perfectly what you are saying here. To this day, despite the new beliefs that have crept into my mind based on post TPON experience, direct and otherwise, my default reaction is to be skeptical of this idea.

Pre-Tolle this skepticism would have crossed the line into cynicism, but not any longer.

I'll offer two counter-points to your presentation:

The first is, admittedly, a mind-projection, this time into the past, but bear with it as the part of your mind that had the negative reaction to that part of Tolles work might find it interesting:

1) Once agriculture was invented, war soon followed. The progression since has been far from one-way, but the tendency has been to move away from taking resources using levels of force that are highly destructive to large percentages of neighboring populations -- from the first tribes in Western Europe who enjoyed an uneasy truce despite not speaking the same language down to the peaceful borders of nations (not all of which are wealthy) in the present day, there does seem to be a trend. The point is, that once war was not only inevitable, but constant -- whenever a group which had a different culture appeared on your border, it was on. We seem to have gotten to the point where war seems inevitable, but at least there are gaps. By some miracle, despite the stockpiles of bombs put up by the Soviets and the U.S. (which still are pointed at one another), here we sit, and on the other side of a complete economic and political collapse on the part of one of the sides. Go figure.

2) How would we really know if this ever happened -- "before enlightenment / after enlightenment"? And making assumptions about the day-to-day landscape if it does might not be a good idea: those who would envision or preach that individual awakening on a massive scale would produce world peace, instant economic leveling or even an end to famine or a procession of hands circling the globe singing koom-bye-yah might certainly have dashed expectations ... so why follow the vector of their projection, which is independent of the possibility of the occurrence?

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:46 pm
by Blenderhead
Interesting :)

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:21 pm
by rontant
usernameless wrote:I do find it a bit odd that there is buzz around a global awakening.
The claim being that more are waking up (more on this below) and that there is some kind of collective consciousness emerging.


IMHO, It was just ET's personal belief. He didn't say it as a prophecy in a typical evangelical sense and he did qualify his statement by "I believe", didn't he? :mrgreen:

Personally I am skeptical too that collective awakening at the planetary scale would ever occur. It's against the nature of this world of forms. Human beings are supposed to be unconscious of who they really are beyond their bodies and mind. They are supposed to be ridden with their egos. Egos by their nature divide and oppose, therefore, they are needed to keep the game alive. It's after all a game of multiplicities, a game of hide-and-seek... :wink:

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:57 pm
by GiveUpTheGhost
Hi, new here and thought I'd chime in, this is something I find myself thinking about often (despite my better judgement), my gut says that it's going to happen and already is happening on some level, although I'm struggling with the 'how', the egoic mind is so deeply entrenched within our global culture that it looks impossible from some angles. We seem to be moving through cycles of ever deepening crisis and complexity, although I can't help thinking about the cultural shifts of the 1960s and the exploration of consciousness through psychedelic substances and whether or not that represented the first stirrings of the impulse to awaken on a large scale that Eckhart mentions. Perhaps the macrocosm will mirror the peaks and valleys that many people experience as they move closer to awakening but over a longer timeframe. Either way, it's fairly useless to speculate, not that that stops me...

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:52 pm
by boogeyman
I've always thought the world needs some kind of natural disaster or large scale economic collapse for people to just to stop and get with the basics. Most of the world population is so occupied with their lives and work that theres not a lot of time for silence. Todays world is filled with computers and mobile devices which makes the problem even worse. Maybe we need a huge solar flare that will wipe out all power station slow things down :D I think some form of crisis is needed to shake and wake up humanity.

Re: The Age of Awakening

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:35 pm
by samarpana
Some of the later parts of this post remind me of a moment, when I felt bad about my actions, and looked at my child, whom happens to have Down syndrome, and I laughed out loud! Ha HA moment,,,,,,i am no different than my son! Just a silly, innocent child. I laughed at myself! I wondered how long it took me not to take myself so seriously.
Now seriously, my ego, is one of billions, though [ THE COURSE IN MIRACLES] states that their is only really [ one ego }. sorry I do not have the exact quote.
So what part of my ego, beliefs, attitudes, fears, ect. are more important than the others?
I am no better off in any aspects, nor am I more intelligent , than my special needs child, nor any child.
So what part of my thoughts are more important....
Silly mom, silly child. lol
Sue :lol:

Re: The Age of Awakening

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