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Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:40 pm
by moonsong
I didn't know what to put into the subject line, but guess that will do.
Does Tolle or the other teachers mentioned in this site refer to 'ways to heal' ..Is it all about alignment and connection to Source? Once Abraham said (paraphrasing) "You need to stop concentrating on healing and start allowing your body to heal itself."
I think I have successfully become a bit of a hyprochondriac in the last 10 years or so. I AM convinced that bringing up 'past reasons' does not help....and it keeps 'bringing up' the future and then it ruins my Nows.
I have very mixed feelings about the 'medical profession' and have only been to the doctor less than a dozen times in the past 30 years (I am now 71) I think its fine they are there for emergency use (minor and major) but I do not have "faith" in the AMA... I don't know if that is 'resistance' or not, thereby the cause of some problems. I hope not. I try to stay in a neutral zone with my feelings. Mostly successful. :? I am "into" alternative stuff, but like Seth said ... (paraphrasing) THAT can be emotionally addicting, too, but at least it is more in the flow with the body's energy field.
I tried Searching this site, but still felt I needed to ask about this. When I DO feel physically crappy I find it really easy to "blame myself for doing something wrong spiritually." And sometimes I feel like I am going to end up "paying" and thn NEEDING the AMA because of my 'bad attitude.' This is probably one of my biggest fears. Never really admitted that before on a forum.

Could somebody --I welcome ALL comments and ideas -- suggest to me the best way to heal the body...what 'mind set' (probably a very poor choice of words :( ) ... to maintain in order to heal oneself and feel better. Sometimes I am just fine, not even afraid to die ... other times I just want to be well and live for at least 10 or so more years...because in spite of challenges and woes, and a constant longing for inner peace ... I still think Life IS Beautiful. Ok. Guess I'm done.
Please, everyone, don't feel like you have to tip toe around with how you want to answer.
THANKS to all who respond.
Love, Moonsong

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:41 am
by Onceler
Moonsong,

Tolle clearly talks about the inner body as a way to slow aging, bolster the immune system and heal. Check out the section on the inner body in TPN. It is brilliant stuff. Frankly, since Tolle puts so much emphasis on the inner body, I am suprised that more people don't talk about more on this forum. If I read him correctly, he seems to to be saying that inner body awareness is one of the simplest, most direct routes to presence.

Check it out and see if it speaks to you about healing.

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:42 am
by Onceler
Moonsong,

Tolle clearly talks about the inner body as a way to slow aging, bolster the immune system and heal. Check out the section on the inner body in TPN. It is brilliant stuff. Frankly, since Tolle puts so much emphasis on the inner body, I am suprised that more people don't talk about it on this forum. If I read him correctly, he seems to to be saying that inner body awareness is one of the simplest, most direct routes to presence.

Check it out and see if it speaks to you about healing.

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:34 am
by tod
Could somebody --I welcome ALL comments and ideas -- suggest to me the best way to heal the body...what 'mind set' (probably a very poor choice of words :( ) ... to maintain in order to heal oneself and feel better.
There is nothing really wrong with the physical body is there? It is only the mind that thinks there is. I recently had a cancerous kidney removed and realised that I needed this to deepen my understanding that I am not my body. Life has a way of giving us the lessons we need. Nothing is out of place.

We go to doctors and have surgery etc because we are conditioned this way. If medical people were not available something else would happen. All will be done on the physical level that can be done in any particular moment; but we do not really live here do we? I mean the now is so short that there is not really any time for anything to happen now. All we can do now is watch a sometimes very convincing movie.

I am currently in one where I go for checkups every so often to see if the cancer has spread. But I do not dwell in or on this.

With best wishes,

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:36 am
by moonsong
Thank you for your response, Onceler.
I've read The Power of Now twice... got so much more out of it the 2nd time...and will read it t he 3rd time!
I know you are right about suggesting that I focus more on the inner body... I just had a really rough time doing that today...but!--I also had some good flashes of insight from what people shared with me. Again, thank you.
Love, Moonsong

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:41 am
by moonsong
Thank you, Tod,
That's an interesting analogy -- watching your life like it's a movie... It sounds like you are coming from a very centered place to be able to do that... and to not dwell on anything negative during your doctor visits... that's great! Thank you for sharing, Tod. I appreciate your encouraging words and your good wishes.
Love, Moonsong

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:02 am
by tod
That's an interesting analogy -- watching your life like it's a movie... It sounds like you are coming from a very centered place to be able to do that...
I cannot always do this, but then sooner of later I remember, and return to now. The now is the center. The now is what I am. The now is not really in time is it?
and to not dwell on anything negative during your doctor visits... that's great!
If I dwell on anything negative, I realise sooner or later that it is only my mind dwelling there and not really me. I am only now, bodyless. Bodies live in minds do they not?

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:01 pm
by James
Hi Moonsong
I can relate to what you are saying. As Onceler mentioned Tolle does speak of experiencing better health through Presence. I particularly like when he mentions about how all the cells of the body become more alive as if they are rejoicing. Energetic changes are often quite obvious as we awaken. Areas that had blocked energy may open up as we release old patterns of conditioning and resistance. Even traditional medicine believes that a large % of disease is stress related. So if we live in harmony with what IS, we may experience a more harmonious body. Unexplained spontaneous healings are possible also in some cases, but we are drifting off into the realm of "faith healing", if we are looking for something to occur in the outer realm. My experience has been that awakening does not occur if we are looking for a change in the outer, waiting for a "form" to improve or an "effect" to happen.

So we come to truth with no other motive then for truth itself. Maybe health improves, maybe not; but when we surrender and accept what is, we no longer need to suffer even in the midst of pain. Right where we are this moment is freedom, when we accept the truth and abide in the "I", or let it abide in us. To have a form means to experience pain and limitation. The dream is not meant to work out, or awakening would not occur. Eckhart talks about the importance of dyeing, before we die. He mentions a friend of his who he taught, and she went on to teach also. In her later years she developed cancer, and passed away, (this was just a few years ago). Tolle spoke about how she had surrendered to it, and how radiant and peaceful she had become in her final days.

Traditional medicine has its place. Doctors are equally an expression of the One. There is only one intelligence. When choosing a doctor it can be approached in a sacred manner, from a state of Presence, look for a doctor that best expresses certain qualities. Maintain Presence when you meet with a doctor, you may be surprised at how wise your physician suddenly appears when you do this. I prefer preventive modalities, but an "integrative medicine" approach uses whatever works, and is reasonably safe; borrowing from preventative, alternative and traditional allopathic techniques. Through the miracle of the computers and the internet, we have access to nearly as much information about health and medicine as doctors, and can make informed decisions, managing our own care.

You may find comfort in the inner sense of body, (the "inner energy field of body), which is ageless.

James

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:44 pm
by letitgo
Hello moonsong,

Healing yourself is a inherent fundamental ability you have simply by your recognition of a Higher Power and you irreversible irrefutable connection to that Source. If you understand and believe that sentence, you can heal yourself and others. Here's a short version of how I heal myself;

I get comfortable either by laying on my back or a very comfortable sitting position. I focus on my breathing until I feel my connection to source. Usually a slight, then building to a strong, vibration in a certain spot on my forehead. Once I feel this connection I respect and accept it. I breathe in the width and breadth of it. I feel it's immenseness. Once fully connected, I ask for healing energy to come into me. I infinitely trust that this healing energy knows beyond my comprehension what to do, so I do nothing. I just observe. If the energy intensifies in a certain area, sometimes I focus on that area with it and sometimes I don't. Sometimes my mind even wanders. The energy doesn't care or judge how well I can concentrate, It is only responding to my faith and my request. It has no choice. That's what it does. It Is always a foot from you and an infinite distance away from you. It is like all energies in the universe, It has a function and it's joy is to fulfill that function. This is the ultimate reality of "Ask and ye shall receive."

If you feel the intent of these instructions, no mantras, no drumming, no smoke and mirrors, then you will be healed. If you feel otherwise, then you can't discount those feelings any more or less than the above. You may have come to earth to experience an illness, who knows? I guarantee the energy from Source knows! So you can't hurt yourself by believing, you can only receive an alternative but also infinitely helpful energy from your Source, or God, or Angels.

Thank you for your post on this subject. Sincerely, Norm

Re: Physical healing and spiritual alignment

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:57 am
by moonsong
Thank you so much, Norm and James, in addition to you others whom I have already thanked! I really do appreciate all of your responses...they were wonderful signposts for me ... and I feel encouraged and more 'on track' again...
Bless you ALL... and I hope everyone reading this has a fun and happy Halloween!! :mrgreen:
Love, Moonsong