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Being & Doing

Post by ashley72 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:48 pm

I recently realized that for the past six months I was directing myself away from the world of doing. I enjoy long walks everyday by myself and with my partner... But ultimately I loved the peace and tranquilty of walking alone in nature just being deeply aware of my surroundings without any purpose in life. It was in a state of Being. I had never cut myself off from things in such a big way, but at the time was drawn to the stillness and simpleness of Being.

But recently in the past four weeks I've flipped back to doing again :) I'm back working on projects and getting myself back amongst things and feeling content just being a bit of a builder and role maker again. I haven't completely stopped the peaceful walks but I'm certainly had a little shift in perspective.

In a way, during the Being stage... I felt peaceful to not have a future purpose in the world, However, some balance was lost and i felt doing things again would bring back some missing spice or zest which comes from doing.


I don't feel like "anyone" had any say in this shift, and noticed that I'm just riding a wave and going with the flow now! More than ever I feel it is now pointless to resist what happens.

I was wondering whether others experience these shifts in the same way?

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Re: Being & Doing

Post by TylerDurden » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:48 pm

Relax into the moment and let the universe do the driving. If there was a secret to happiness in life, I’d say that was it.

I live spontaneously. I never decide anything beforehand. I keep the tomorrow open. If I feel like speaking, I speak. If I feel like being silent, then there is no other way to be silent. And I never ask myself why. Because no "why" is answerable. All answers are arbitrary. So I simply go on floating with the river never asking where it is going, why it is going, where it is going to end. And this is my basic approach to life. A total let-go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UshTlso9QYI

Hope it helps. :wink:
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Re: Being & Doing

Post by smiileyjen101 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:41 am

It was in a state of Being. I had never cut myself off from things in such a big way, but at the time was drawn to the stillness and simpleness of Being.
Ash did you really feel 'cut off'?
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Re: Being & Doing

Post by tod » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:13 am

ashley72 wrote:But recently in the past four weeks I've flipped back to doing again :) I'm back working on projects and getting myself back amongst things and feeling content just being a bit of a builder and role maker again. I haven't completely stopped the peaceful walks but I'm certainly had a little shift in perspective.

In a way, during the Being stage... I felt peaceful to not have a future purpose in the world, However, some balance was lost and i felt doing things again would bring back some missing spice or zest which comes from doing.


I don't feel like "anyone" had any say in this shift, and noticed that I'm just riding a wave and going with the flow now! More than ever I feel it is now pointless to resist what happens.

I was wondering whether others experience these shifts in the same way?
The 'little shifts'? What do you see shifting? Is it you shifting from being to doing? Or is it more of a shift from doing to watching the doing whilst doing is going on? Or is doing shifting?

Isn't doing the movement of a perspective? Is that perspective you? Is the movement from a moving perspective to more of a still one the 'little shift'?

Sorry, more questions than answers here.

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Re: Being & Doing

Post by snowheight » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:22 am

ashley72 wrote: I had never cut myself off from things in such a big way, but at the time was drawn to the stillness and simpleness of Being.
Wow, really? That sound of silence, very sweet, right?

Don't worry, in the end, there is no insulation, no barrier, no hiding place. Not even for the richest or least unscathed of apparent individuals. We all find ourselves in the end. Even the most unconscious of humanity cannot escape who they are, and their situation is very different from yours Ash.

But think of these walks, or moreover, the periods of time when you are partial to such non-activity in the same way you might a long and sound nights sleep. Same effect!
ashley72 wrote:But recently in the past four weeks I've flipped back to doing again
x^2 + y^2 = 1
ashley72 wrote: i felt doing things again would bring back some missing spice or zest which comes from doing.


There is zest and there is Zest. The one is balanced by a glass of milk, the other cannot be balanced.

x*sin(x)

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ashley72 wrote:I was wondering whether others experience these shifts in the same way?
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Re: Being & Doing

Post by ashley72 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:14 pm

smiileyjen101 wrote:
It was in a state of Being. I had never cut myself off from things in such a big way, but at the time was drawn to the stillness and simpleness of Being.
Ash did you really feel 'cut off'?
Not completely, but enough to let go of many worldly desires I used to have. Drinking with my buddies, going to gym and many over social activities fell away. I still used the forum and went to work ect. But my world was more alone than ever before. I let go of many conditioned behaviors.

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Post by HermitLoon » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:22 pm

The great mystery of the "essence of being" is not describable - not knowable by the mind.
Most minds, however, insist that anything that is sensed is describable, so they dig into their tool kits of conditioned memory and logic and come up with labels and descriptions that satisfy the survival instinct. This has spawned religions, philosophies, beliefs and whole industries based on the need for certainty and continuity.
Some minds, however, are continually unsatisfied and (through negation) turn on themselves in an effort to know the "truth beyond the mind".
Some are content to just be and do without knowing or believing.
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Post by Ziendus » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:18 pm

There is nothing but the universe steering.
Every uttered word, every doing, every plan, every letgo, every arousal,
is the universe going left, going right.
Spontaneity, is all there is.
---ooOoo---

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Re: Being & Doing

Post by ashley72 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:17 am

tod wrote:The 'little shifts'? What do you see shifting? Is it you shifting from being to doing? Or is it more of a shift from doing to watching the doing whilst doing is going on? Or is doing shifting?
I'm always witnessing in being or doing modes. Otherwise i wouldnt be aware of the shift. However,I feel some awareness is lost during the doing, I'm more on autopilot when doing. In any building phase always many tasks to complete so your constantly task orientated.... One thing after another.

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Re: Being & Doing

Post by smiileyjen101 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:54 am

Not completely, but enough to let go of many worldly desires I used to have. Drinking with my buddies, going to gym and many over social activities fell away. I still used the forum and went to work ect. But my world was more alone than ever before. I let go of many conditioned behaviors.
Ash would you say that the feeling 'cut off' may be your expression for the feeling of being 'less distracted' - in the being. Or are you seriously meaning violently excised(?)

I get lost in some of the resonances of the terminology used in 'non-dual' speak - focussing on the 'no-thing-ness' instead of the 'all-ness', 'no you' instead of 'oneness (plenum - omnity)' it seems like it's all flipped up in the negative that swings to some polar opposite, which has a different energy/vibration rate than Being Aware of Oneness.

Non-duality has its opposite in duality.
Omnity / Oneness has no opposite it encompasses everything - non-duality and duality included as concepts that have resonances.

The balance you are (maybe) seeking is that whether you notice it or not you are still swinging in positive-negative horizontal territory instead of finding the depth in the middle that encompasses all without discrimination - discrimination meaning 'refusal'. So encompassing all without refusal.

In the swinging as I see it, somehow 'being' became 'cut off' - socialising and going to the gym became 'conditioned behaviours' as if some sort of enemy now, where once they may have been either a distraction or an egoic means to an end maybe - but with attention there is no thing wrong with 'being' in those situations/places either.

Distraction as a verb is merely inattention.

The reverse of that is being in a tract - a definite space or place.

Being 'cut off' has (for me) a resonance of violent isolation - which suggests resistance and/or unwillingness.

Connection is awareness of the 'contact', to join, concatenate - which means continuity - which full circle comes back to oneness (omnity - nice word hey?)

The ET quote I left in snowy's thread about the renovation speaks to aware doing, being while doing, without a need for 'distractions' - which are only arguments against being present with what is(for me). If you feel the need to do something else, you then go do (be present with) that without excuses.

You could, with awareness 'be' in full awareness, drinking with your buddies, at the gym, on your walks - or anywhere without feeling 'cut off'. Balance is not swinging from one polarity to the other (horizontally), it's vertical - depth with height - omnipresence of the omnity.

To 'dissociate' from activities is different again - it means 'unwillingness' - 'opposition'. Being aware of your level of attention, willingness or even your distractions can still be aware being, regardless of where you are, or what you are doing. Being aware of your resistances is part of this omnipresence.

Sorry for the rant Ash... cut off just 'knifed' me to our core :wink:
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Re: Being & Doing

Post by ashley72 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:08 pm

Jen,

I'm not sure I could put down in words what I really mean by "cut off". In a way, I don't feel I ever had a choice now about what shifts were occurring in my life. But a deep witnessing has been going on during these times so I have clarity, I just can't really do it justice by trying to fit into a bunch of words.

Trying to deeply witness anxiety and it's source has been a preoccupation of mine for sometime now. A life without anxiety is something I desired for almost four years... And I now see that same desire is the root cause. With that knowledge I'm letting go of the desire to be anxiety free and going with whatever life gives me in the present moment. If anxiety comes, Im going to be ok with that... I don't need to drive it away... It's part of that moment.

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Re: Being & Doing

Post by nanashi » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:39 pm

smiileyjen101 wrote:
You could, with awareness 'be' in full awareness, drinking with your buddies, at the gym, on your walks - or anywhere without feeling 'cut off'.
I agree with jen on this one.

Being and 'Doing' do not have to be two separate states. From ashley's original post, it feels like to me there is a line being drawn between Being and Doing where on one side there was peace, non-action, distance (from people), and a lot of walking. On the other side, there was ambition, hustle, productivity, and a lot of running! :)

As much as we would love to, a lot of us don't have the luxury of walking through desolate forests and chasing squirrels everyday because, well, we have to eat, sleep, buy stuff, talk to people, and generally enter that mind dominated environment people call the 'real world in order to survive. And we all have our ways to wind down and really help ease the stress that the work environment can put onto us when we get caught up in the moment from time to time. But I don't think there needs to be any drastic 'shift' in personal perspective whether you are climbing up tree branches or working in a busy construction site.

The consistency that I am getting at is that constant level of awareness. One does not have to keep himself or herself preoccupied with busy work or have intimate conversations with Bambi just to have that level of awareness to make you present. They are one in the same in terms of Being. The only difference is the amount of physical (and mental in some cases) constitution/energy you exhaust in the activity/self-expression/non-activity you are doing. That's it.

Ambition and the desire for productivity can be regressive to one's practice of awareness (in my humble opinion). To me, it is important to understand that non-action and action are not equal and opposite extremes of Being and doing. You can Be everywhere. But at times, it's possible to less Be. The doing is relative.

Hope that makes sense. And sorry for the numerous forrestry references... :lol:
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Re: Being & Doing

Post by ashley72 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:45 pm

Nanashi,

I agree with you... Being & Doing dont need to be separated into two different states. I was still doing stuff when I was walking alone. However, I was trying to describe a shift in me that I witnessed.

I was finding certain situations difficult for a while because I had conditioned myself to resist them. So naturally I found non resistance in walking alone in nature, it was much easier to find stillness and calm. At the same time i let go of old conditioned habits that were creating so much resistance. I was trying to find an anxiety free environment where I could rediscover peace and tranquility that I was craving at the time.

After 8 months of being alone, I recharged the batteries and felt a desire to get back into doing again... Because I now missed the doing role in my life.

Who knows maybe after six months of doing I will fall back to predominately more being again.

Others may not witness any shift because it's hardly noticeable, however, for me it was a noticeable transition.

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Re: Being & Doing

Post by Rick » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:04 am

"Remember always the one who is inside the body. Walking, sitting,
eating or doing anything, remember the one who is neither walking nor
sitting nor eating.

All doing is on the surface, and beyond all doing is the being. So be
aware of the non-doer in the doing, of the non-mover in the moving"

Osho - A Cup of Tea
Daily life IS spiritual exercise.

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Re: Being & Doing

Post by ashley72 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:32 am

I guess when I was spending time alone in nature, I only had a small ripple on the surface... Hence the calm & tranquility which comes with less doing and more being!!!

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