Whacking other people's egos.Phil2 wrote: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
" (Matthew 10:34)
It's a tough job but somebody's gotta do it:

Whacking other people's egos.Phil2 wrote: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
" (Matthew 10:34)
More gossip ...dijmart wrote:
Here's what the mod Dev said to you-
But are we here to say what others want to hear and remain in our comfort zone ? where ego is never challenged because we share the same opinions and beliefs of like-minded people ?Webwanderer wrote: It's not about Jesus attacking people as you so often do, it's about inspiring change from within that has the power to restructure misconceptions within ourselves.
Actually, it's a fact. We know how you like facts. You can go to Kinfonet and "see" the quote by Dev to you. Also, how can something on the internet for all the world to see be "gossip". If that's the case you're the king of gossip for as much as you post.Phil2 wrote:More gossip ...dijmart wrote:
Here's what the mod Dev said to you-
Please refrain from posting in the General Discussion Forum except for on the odd occasion when you can avoid confrontation.
When you make it in context with your own behavior.Phil2 wrote:Since when does quoting someone mean that I am this person who made the original statement ?Webwanderer wrote:Phil, you never disappoint.
This is special.Jesus among us. Who knew?Phil2 wrote:In the same vein you might also consider those words from Jesus:
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
This is what J. Krishnamurti called the "mirror of relationships" ... I mirror you and you mirror me ... that's fine ... Why is it a problem to expose your ego ? I see no problem with this, why do you ?Webwanderer wrote: Do you not suggest that you bring a 'sword' of such to this forum? Why else would you cite such a quote? 'I Phil, am like Jesus, and I come to expose all egos, (except my own of course).'
I think that answer is quite helpful actually in understanding why you point these things out.Phil2 wrote:This is what J. Krishnamurti called the "mirror of relationships" ... I mirror you and you mirror me ... that's fine ... Why is it a problem to expose your ego ? I see no problem with this, why do you ?Webwanderer wrote: Do you not suggest that you bring a 'sword' of such to this forum? Why else would you cite such a quote? 'I Phil, am like Jesus, and I come to expose all egos, (except my own of course).'
I am ready to face what I am, but do you ?
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True to form as usual. One might call it a rut. Point to other's as having egos that need to be addressed, but never your own.Phil2 wrote:This is what J. Krishnamurti called the "mirror of relationships" ... I mirror you and you mirror me ... that's fine ... Why is it a problem to expose your ego ? I see no problem with this, why do you ?Webwanderer wrote: Do you not suggest that you bring a 'sword' of such to this forum? Why else would you cite such a quote? 'I Phil, am like Jesus, and I come to expose all egos, (except my own of course).'
I am ready to face what I am, but do you ?
??
....Phil, what triggers this in you to respond this way?
Webwanderer wrote: 'I Phil, am like Jesus, and I come to expose all egos, (except my own of course).'
Yes, as I said I don't have any 'hidden agenda' ... I have always been clear on this ... when I see ego at work I just expose it (as a 'fact') ... and this is enough to be considered as an hostility or an 'attack' ... because ego does not like to be unmasked and exposed ...lmp wrote:I think that answer is quite helpful actually in understanding why you point these things out.Phil2 wrote:This is what J. Krishnamurti called the "mirror of relationships" ... I mirror you and you mirror me ... that's fine ... Why is it a problem to expose your ego ? I see no problem with this, why do you ?Webwanderer wrote: Do you not suggest that you bring a 'sword' of such to this forum? Why else would you cite such a quote? 'I Phil, am like Jesus, and I come to expose all egos, (except my own of course).'
I am ready to face what I am, but do you ?
??
But isn't it what happens in this very discussion WW, several (angry) posters here try to expose my ego (some as a 'retaliation' or 'revenge' to past hurts), trying to contradict what I say and make me wrong, no ?Webwanderer wrote:True to form as usual. One might call it a rut. Point to other's as having egos that need to be addressed, but never your own.Phil2 wrote:This is what J. Krishnamurti called the "mirror of relationships" ... I mirror you and you mirror me ... that's fine ... Why is it a problem to expose your ego ? I see no problem with this, why do you ?Webwanderer wrote: Do you not suggest that you bring a 'sword' of such to this forum? Why else would you cite such a quote? 'I Phil, am like Jesus, and I come to expose all egos, (except my own of course).'
I am ready to face what I am, but do you ?
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Lets talk about your ego instead of others. Don't you think it's time to explore your own issues here? Why be so afraid? There is clarity to be had for a little honest review. It would be a refreshing change.
Remember, it's you who keeps the ego subject on this confrontational course. There are other effective ways to explore our human nature.
WW
But Jen I said it several times, I just say what I see and I stick to facts ... when I see ego at work I just expose it ... and egos won't like that of course ... but I don't consider this as a "mission" ... is it a "mission" to see things as they are ?smiileyjen101 wrote: My original question to Phil was pointing to self awareness of patterns of behaviour, and Phil if you are aware and you have a mission, please, share your mission statement and the underlying energy of it - it may well be altruistic, honest, generous & compassionate - we are not the ones experiencing the impetus, you are, and we may be misunderstanding that.
Do you mean you are looking for more ideas ? more thoughts ? ... don't you have enough of these ?Onceler wrote:Actually, as I said to you many times before, I and many here are here to share opinions and to find comfort and reassurance in a 'like minded' environment. Life triggers our egos perfectly, we are not here for that. Many of us don't have spiritually minded friends and company and we are here to find comfort and community. And to find stimulation and new ideas. Exactly that. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
As I said it's not a "goal" or a "mission" ... just observation ... facts ... what is ...I don't think triggering someone else's ego is difficult nor a goal to be pursued, we all do that naturally in the course of interaction, nor do I see anywhere in Tolle's writing that he is encouragies this practice. What is a skill and art is to transcend the ego and rise above it in our discourse. That happens here quite a bit in my opinion. We may not agree with each other, but we respect each other's points of view and very gradually expand our own position. I have grown from this much more than someone 'irritating' on these forums. The energy of ego transcendence, community, and respect feels so much better to me than discord and I think this is the beginnings of Tolle's idea of a new earth.....not intentional ego triggering.
Yes civility is important (btw did I ever insult anyone here ? can you substantiate that ?), one must be at a distance from emotional reactions of anger, frustration, fear etc when ego is challenged, which does not mean to say things that necessarily please others because once again pleasant words are not true and true words are not pleasant ...We are guest here and need to be civil with each other.
(Just to preempt your reliable response to this, yes I did insult you year and a half ago and I'm sorry....but I have been civil since. This is all we are asking as fellow guest).