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Our Purpose Here

Postby heidi » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:36 pm

Eric has been away for awhile. Because I'm not a heavy-handed moderator, I need to reiterate a few things about this forum.

Sometimes the banter moves far away from our purpose for creating this forum. What we really hope to have here is a really good resource for people interested in Tolle's work and the Power of Now.

I realize some of us like to post our personalities. It's gotten a little cliquish, which may deter others from joining discussions and sharing their unique perspectives. Remember, many posters speak other languages and come from other cultures. Please honor this when posting.

Please use proper capitalization and punctuation.

Please try and stay on topic. Save the banter for thenew chat room!
http://www.inner-growth.info/chat/

I'm not shooing you off; I'm just trying to make this forum concise, welcoming and understandable for all.

Thank you for your cooperation.
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Postby spatialbean » Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:07 am

Wow...um...ok...yes!

Absolutely! Come on over, bring your personalities and your foibles and your intimacy and we will all be in joy in ourselves.

That's the goal, isn't it?

Also, it's not just a chat room there is plenty of room to post and do whatever it is you want to and need to do on your path to realizing we are all one. Messy? I don't mind. Human? Great, so am I. Trouble with English, grammar or spelling? Bring it on, we'll help you! And if we don't understand we'll just say "huh?"

Easy peasy...let's go, train's movin out, come on kids!

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PS...When I created the chat forum, I chose yahoo because it has the chat feature and the albums feature. I don't care for the layout of the forum itself, so be prepared for another move if things really get rolling at the other site.
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Postby be-lank » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:42 am

No problem Heidi. You have been very patient, and we appreciate it.
You are looking out for the well being of the site and for the rest of the group and viewers. Some of us, and I won’t mention any names, got a little bit carried away on the playground. Speaking just for me, I had a blast!

And I thank both you and Eric for such lovely hospitality.

We will go back to class now. (Note to self, “hide bubblegum”.)

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(Well Kiki- I guess the board is yours! Ha-ha!) :D
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Postby phil » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:03 pm

Thanks for the guidance Heidi, it's appreciated. As are you. Message received! A Tolle in every post from now on.

Let's see how I make out in this post. Additional guidance welcomed, requested.

I wonder why we want a forum focused on Tolle.

Wouldn't Tolle be the first person to say he is just a pointer? Wouldn't he insist that his teachings are just words.

And not silence?

For me, once you know a portal or two, the teacher has served their purpose. In any given moment, we choose to go in to now, or we don't. Why drag someone else in to that? One more way to put off now, and pretend we aren't?

And there are so many teachers. So many. So Many!

Here's a contest. See if you can find any spiritual book anywhere that describes the pathetically hilarious nature of the ego better than this character created by Steve Martin.

http://www.stevelaplaca.com/jerk.jpg

And look! The picture says it all. No words needed. Look at The Jerk, clutching all that stuff, with his pants around his ankles, the confused sad look.

Priceless ego art!

For my taste, Tolle and my personal fav Krishnamurti, work a tad too hard making a big scary boogey man out of our egos. The excitement, the drama! My ego, my enlightenment, so very very important!!

Look at the way Steve Martin, just one of a million teachers, shines a light on the ego.

You wouldn't be caught dead in public with his character, too embarassing! But didn't you love The Jerk by the end of the movie? Observe the kindness, the acceptance, the love, with which Martin shines a light on our egos.

Yes, there it is, it's ridiculous! But let's invite it home for dinner anyway.

Why have a forum ABOUT egos, when we could BE egos here instead? :-)

I gotta go! I'm in the phone book! I'm mean, this forum! I'm really gonna be somebody now!
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Postby heidi » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:22 am

Hi Phil - There are a lot of people in this crazy world who are just now finding The Power of Now or A New Earth. They may have picked up the book; they may have found a bit of joy in the silence, they may have had it recommended by their therapist, and want to learn more. They may be at the brink of despair or the edge of a breakthrough, or just curious.

They do a search and find us. It could be somebody from Iceland, Sweden, Israel, Germany, Iraq, Kuwait, Ukraine, England, Australia, Canada, Poland or even China and everywhere else.

I wonder why we want a forum focused on Tolle.


Eric made his Tolle site of which this is an offshoot. I actually hosted it at peacethings.com until he found the right host. It's funny he calls his Eckhart Tolle site a fan site, but that's what his culture calls something that focuses on one person or their teachings or publications. You or I wouldn't have used that word because it might connote following or worship, which is not what this is about at all.

The issues we deal with are truly paradoxical, and your posts hit on those paradoxes very well. Alas, your wit may be lost on the new visitor (but believe me, it's not lost on me - but I'm not just here for me).

Many for whom English isn't a first language might be lost to the nuances of the irony. That's why we try to keep it focused; that's why we try to make it so all readers can understand. That's why I'm perplexed at how to achieve this without bruising egos!

Why am I here being a forum nazi? Because, idealist that I am, I feel that Tolle's work can help to unify the totally f*cked up world where people are blowing each other up over their identification with diety, and all sorts of stuff that causes such strife. I'm into peace. And yes, even when working at maintaining this forum to bring people online together, I find myself inadvertantly creating these little ego wars.

I have a healthy ego, and I do not demonize it, however I do see where it can stand in the way of joy and comfort, and where it can lead to unnecessary pain, and where it can lead conversations away from topics to its own purpose. It's a mighty slippery slope.

I hope I answered your question.
And hey, if you want to create a forum just about egos, nobody's stopping you :) And if you want to post a topic about ego issues, since the ego indeed plays a big role in Tolle's work, nobody's stopping you.

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Postby phil » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:51 am

Great post Heidi. I'm totally at peace with all you said.

I think you're doing great as a moderator.

Like you said, it's a tricky business, ego-wise, publishing-wise etc. There's no decision you can make that's going to keep everybody happily loving you. Having the courage, judgement and committment to make those calls anyway, leadership, I can dig it.

heidi wrote:And if you want to post a topic about ego issues, since the ego indeed plays a big role in Tolle's work, nobody's stopping you.


I hear ya, and that's all I meant above. Just trying to explore the subject from one more angle. Just trying to add something that isn't already here, make a contribution.

Ok, observing myself drifting off topic. Let's get back to Tolle.
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Postby heidi » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:04 pm

Resurrecting this thread here after all the off topic brouhaha of late. Eric and I have been discussing creating some succinct rules for this forum.

Over the past couple of years we've built a community here of kind and conscious people. Most members come here to better understand the work of Tolle and to share their insights. All the previous posts of this thread hopefully explain the purpose of this forum. Why have a Tolle forum? Because, just because it happened, and now it is.

The rules we'll set forth will make it clear to that all who join us here, the responsibilities (yep, responsibilities) of being a member of this forum. I invite you to suggest rules to help make this forum a welcoming place for all who care to join for the purpose of discussing Tolle's work and its very broad implications on personal and universal levels.

The issue of respect has come up recently. Of course, with an internet forum one's post may seem witty and direct to some but hurtful and antagonistic to others. So, I'm trying to figure out a way, a rule, that asks members to honor the community with respectful (and on topic) posting.

I'm going to post a separate topc, Rules Suggestions, and I invite your input.

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Postby din » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:13 pm

Heidi,

I really must say something here.

Recently both "myself" (Jada) and I have realized what we are beyond form.

This is very liberating.

There is joyousness, there is spontaneity, there is celebration in this.

There are no boundaries in this.

The rules on this site are for a purpose and I respect that.

But sometimes rules need to be let go of to allow the present moment to manifest in whatever way it will.

It cannot be contained or restricted.

In a sense, Jada and I embody the entire purpose of this board.
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Postby heidi » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:17 pm

Recently both "myself" (Jada) and I have realized what we are beyond form.


Well, Din, if that's so what are you doing hanging around on an internet forum so formish as this? Being without form doesn't give license to be unkind or insensitive or disrespectful, now, does it? In fact, you'd think if your were without form then you'd be without words, too. ;)
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Postby din » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:32 pm

In fact, you'd think if your were without form then you'd be without words, too.



I'm sorry but what I am cannot be contained within any thought or assumption.
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Postby heidi » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:37 pm

Maybe then it might be a good idea for you to create your own Formless Forum where you can be uncontained and thoughtless to your whim's delight. :)
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Postby din » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:41 pm

Being without form doesn't give license to be unkind or insensitive or disrespectful, now, does it?


Being without form is total freedom.

There are absolutely no demands or expectations.

All is accepted as is.

All is as it is.

Right here, right now.
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Postby din » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:52 pm

Maybe then it might be a good idea for you to create your own Formless Forum



Sooooo...... you're asking me to get lost.
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Postby erict » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:03 pm

But sometimes rules need to be let go of to allow the present moment to manifest in whatever way it will.


Yeah, sure, why don't we do just that. And in a few weeks there will be so many porn/casino/viagra posts here for everyone to sift through, it would surely be great.
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Postby din » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:11 pm

And in a few weeks there will be so many porn/casino/viagra posts here


We're not REALLY talking about that at all now are we.

What we're really talking about is freedom of expression.

What is acceptable and what is not.

And who decides.

I can sense my painbody rising to the surface and having a field day with this!
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