sevenworlds wrote:mistral, what distinguishes the "stone" from everything else around it? You seem to be separating recognition and naming. I have to first have the knowledge that it is a "stone" to even be able to contemplate how many. Otherwise it's all just a mass of energy moving around. You really wouldn't know what you are looking at because you are what you are looking at.
I'm not saying anything is wrong with knowledge but we somehow seem to superimpose it on top. It is fine when required. It probably developed for survival reasons. But if I am looking at someone holding a stone in their hand, why do I need to distinguish the stone from the hand from the person from everything I am seeing? This can be directly known. I can sit in a cafe and just look. I don't know what I am looking at because I'm not registering people, cars, streets, it's all just a mass of colour shifting around. Nothing is being looked at, only looking. The people, cars, streets, etc only come into focus when I want to KNOW something. When I'm ordering a coffee, yes, I need to recognise a 'person' behind the counter, and have the knowledge there of what I want. Once I'm sat down, why do I need to keep recognising everything around me? It's in this area we are wasting enormous amounts of energy through excessive thinking. Recognition is naming.
Yes, and I am very good at recognizing things. I recognize you are repeating the some old hash words of many 'non-dualists' that I do believe may have gotten mis-interpreted somewhere along the line.
I do not know about you, but as for me I know I am NOT a tree, or cat. I know I do not see everything as mass of energy. Everything is not a big blob of indistinguisable mush.
Absolute Reality, Divine Intelligence is the basis for the existence of 'things'. Without Intelligence there is No 'world of images'. As I was saying about Principle.
“Jesus went up into the temple and taught. And the Jews marveled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned? Jesus answered them and said, My doctrine IS not mine, but HIS that sent me. If any man do His will he shall know of the doctrine….” (John 7:14-17). In effect Jesus says knowledge
does not come from the man and his attempts to arrive at truth. Rather it belongs to Truth (the Father) itself, which is the basis for all knowledge.
This is because God is Intelligence. and God is All That Is. Life Itself. Awareness and Intelligence are the same. We live in An Intelligent Universe, Mind, Divine Mind; God knows what God is. And from what I see, God does not make everything a mass of indistiguishable energy. This One Energy is Absolute Intelligence; that is how or why a 'desk is a desk' and 'cat is a cat' That which 'stands behind' it, KNOWS this is not that, that is not this.
We are 'nothing but Intelligence' and That Light of Truth knows All. There is nothing It does not know.
What is even more remarkable is that as we become aware of God's Grace, This Divine Intelligence as the underlying basis to this 'matter-time-world-experience' things get even more detailed, more distinguished. There is a great increase in sensitivity. One begins to notice more detail, not less. a wondrous fact. More color, more tenderness, more light, sizes, shapes, textures. You know that God did not make one snowflake alike, and why? Because God Infinite Mind and the things are Its Infinite Manifestions. And a little snowflake, so unique and special and lovely only lasts a split second in time. The Wonder of It all, Ah, Sweet Mystery of Life.
For me it is more like I have stopped placing good-bad values, or lables on the images of awareness, and in doing so, my ability to distinguish has increased enormously. Things I thought I was totally familar with and knew quite well, become alive with newness, I am more aware of there sensual beauty and the detail of things, different sizes, colors and designs. My perception has gotten clearer and more acute. Furthermore , there is now a very real intuitive
alertness that is sharp and acurate. As my preconcieved concepts of things lets go, Reality and Its Divine Intelligence seems to bring more passion and aliveness to all that I see. this Intelligence is Open and Expansive.
I think our presuing knowledge about "who we are' is one of the Divine Gifts that should be utilized by more folks.
We are much like telescopes, we do not stop with first telescope that Galilao made, as marvelous as it was, as much as it saw about the universe, that he, with his courage and brillance, opened up the heavens for every man to explore. That first telescope told man of things they had not known before, and that understanding shook the old establishment. But, we did not stop there, Now we have invented bigger and bigger telescopes, now the Hubble brings us views of things that no man has ever seen before. We are like that, we do not stop at the first glimmer of Truth, we do not end it there where we find out a little about 'who we are' no, no, we keep going, we use what others tell us, and if it proves true we do not stop there, we do not take anyones words if they say, that is the 'end of it', No, we keep expanding our knowledge, we go exploring with Newer bigger telescopes, that move beyond old view.
Now we are almost to the begining of time before the world was, entering an even greater galaxy of understanding "who we are".
Those who concern themselves with reality as reality is find themselves with a magnificently all-embracing knowledge of 'things'. Knowing only gets more so, not less.
Oh, well, nuff said along these lines, Love, Mistral.